This chapter presents a transcript of Suzuki Roshi's ninth talk on the Sandokai. It focuses on these lines from the poem: Light and dark oppose one another like front and back foot in walking. Roshi begins by saying we are still talking about reality from the viewpoint of independency. Dependency and independency are actually two sides of one coin. People may say that the Japanese are very tough. But that is just one side of the Japanese personality. The other side is softness. Because of their Buddhist background, they have been trained that way for a long time. The Japanese people are very kind.
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